smaller than those of Siberian elm and are without the purplish coloration. They are commonplace in most towns throughout the West, but typically they only grow in areas that are neglected. Siberian dwarf elms grow to between 50 and 70 ft. (15 -21 m). Siberian elm (which i often call Chinese elm - by mistake, they ARE different) weighs a ton when wet. By the way, many people call Siberian elm by the wrong name, Chinese elm. Siberian elm was brought in to replace dying American elm trees. Siberian Elm. The elms to which you refer are probably Siberian Elm (Ulmus pumila) instead of the true Chinese Elm (Ulmus parvifolia). x�c```c``�������9���@���1�mc�b��Ͱ���" �. Elm tree bark: Wych elm bark is gray and smooth when young, which gradually develops fissures as the tr Do you think this type of wood would be good to use for this purpose? It blooms in autumn and has not been known to escape cultivation in Missouri. Here in WY the Siberian were used for shelterbelts and you could count on a bushel of seeds every spring, but no tree worth anything except for firewood. The bark on a Chinese elm looks nothing like other elms and unlike any domestic species. Ulmus pumila, the Siberian elm, is a tree native to Central Asia, eastern Siberia, the Russian Far East, Mongolia, Tibet, northern China, India (northern Kashmir) and Korea. Siberian elm (Not recommended) Siberian elms have invasive traits that enable them to spread aggressively. Thanks to the Missouri Botanical Gardens for clearly marking this Chinese elm. Thank you for any advice. Contact me offline and I'll put you in touch with who you need to call. The presenter from Minnesota, specifically addressing power line issues and breaking branches, put Siberian elm at the top of the “Do Not Plant” list. I can't tell whether is it a Chinese elm (Ulmus parvifolia) or a Siberian elm (Ulmus pumila). It is also known as the Asiatic elm and dwarf elm, but sometimes miscalled the 'Chinese Elm' (Ulmus parvifolia).It is the last tree species encountered in the semi-desert regions of central Asia. Smaller of course is relative because in my opinion it still gets quite large. 0000229551 00000 n It happens all the time, people call me and tell me about trees that are so big that they can’t get their arms around them and, unrelated but still slightly humorous, they tell me about their Chinese Elms. Find diameters of the same size to compare. Siberian elms (also known as the Asiatic, Lacebark, or Chinese elm) are common in Central Asia, Mongolia China, Siberia, India, and Korea. I took that opportunity to snap some photos for comparison. Look at the new growth on your Siberian and see if it looks like the other to be sure. Siberian elm is the weed tree that throws seeds in the spring. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. ( Log Out /  I’m wanting to make furniture like live edge slabs for coffee tables, outdoor benches, etc. trailer << /Size 43 /Prev 1098139 /Info 25 0 R /Root 27 0 R >> startxref 0 %%EOF 27 0 obj << /Type /Catalog /Pages 28 0 R >> endobj 28 0 obj << /Type /Pages /Kids [ 29 0 R 1 0 R 7 0 R 13 0 R 19 0 R ] /Count 5 >> endobj 41 0 obj << /Length 42 0 R /S 71 /Filter /FlateDecode >> stream A large Siberian elm stands in Cathedral Park as Cara Keyser and her mom, Diane Keyser, of Louisville, Colo., take a break on a park bench May 2. Chinese elm is more oriental in shape. Denver has a program for it, if they are in the ROW you are in luck. This species of elm is native to Korea, Central Asia, Tibet, Mongolia, the … Chinese elm seeds in the fall. If you are interested in custom work, please call for an appointment. Change ). Chinese Elm Firewood. I have no input on elms from England since I have no official experience with them, but I am going to put my money on them not being American elm. We are open for retail sales of lumber and slabs from 8 a.m. – noon on Saturdays and by appointment during the week. Also known as Chinese elm, lacebark elm is a medium size tree that typically reaches heights of 40 to 50 feet (12 to 15 m.). Nonetheless, just assume that your Chinese elm is actually a Siberian elm, unless it looks a lot like the photos below. 0000000613 00000 n Dutch Elm Disease The elm issue moved to the forefront after a recent trip to the Missouri Botanical Gardens when I ran across an actual Chinese Elm conveniently marked with a little official sign. %PDF-1.2 %���� Siberian Elm is the weed of the elm family. Nonetheless, just assume that your Chinese elm is actually a Siberian elm, unless it looks a lot like the photos below. It is difficult to identify young trees by the bark because young bark is so much different than mature bark. Chinese elm is more oriental in shape. (2012). That sounds like elm leaf beetle, who love American elm. Although many know Siberian elm as "Chinese elm," another species, Ulmus parviflora, is more correctly called "Chinese elm." Chinese Elm vs. Siberian Elm. Noteworthy Characteristics. It can be used as a substitute for the American elm in the quest to overcome Dutch elm disease. I took that opportunity to snap some photos for comparison. Siberian elms are not a good choice for Missouri landscaping. I had no idea about two of the giants (Siberian Elms) I reluctantly had to cut down because in snow storms they would drop enormous limbs in the driveway breaking through power lines. Siberian elms are not great trees, while American elms are, at least as far as trees go. While these trees have demonstrated invasive traits, there is insufficient supporting research to declare them so pervasive that they cannot be recommended for any planting sites. While most elm species are good hearty trees, Siberian Elm is a problem in the urban forest. Twigs and leaves are … It is brittle and will easily break in storms and it is often tormented by other issues that leave it looking less than perfectly healthy all year long. I like both American Elm and Siberian Elm and assume that I would like Chinese Elm as well, and I don’t want to miss my chance to mill one if it ever comes along. European elms are common across Europe. The Siberian Elm (Ulmus pumila) in the Western United States is a weed on steroids.My family had a two of Siberian Elm trees in our front yard in northwestern Colorado, where I grew up, but we incorrectly called them a Chinese Elm. In a natural environment though, they have a tougher go. Both American and Siberian elms are prolific at spreading seeds, which helps them pop up in unplanned locations. 0000000668 00000 n The bark has the same scaly texture throughout the lower portion of the tree. They tend to not dry flat, but generally work fine with power tools. I have never seen one in real life, at least that I know of, and this was a great opportunity for a close-up view of a confirmed Chinese elm tree. as a amatuer tree cutter (firewood) i have a devil of a time identifying trees i found your post modt helpful and will now argue with my freinds that they too don’t have a chinese elm. Siberian elm trees are small to medium-sized bushy trees with a rounded crown of dense foliage. Nonetheless, just assume that your Chinese elm is actually a Siberian elm, unless it looks a lot like the photos below. 0000007399 00000 n As garden plants have benefits and other uses, allergy is also a major drawback of plants for some people. Parvifolia elm is commonly known as Chinese or Lacebark elm medium-sized firewood. I think American elm is one of the prettiest woods around and I am a big fan of Siberian elm too. Siberian Elm vs. Chinese Elm. As far as lumber goes, I am a fan of all elms. 0000001269 00000 n Thus far, it has been hardier than its cousin and is not susceptible to classic elm disease. It is not uncommon for only one in ten logs of Siberian Elm to have straight grain, with the rest having varying degrees of funkiness. 0000000945 00000 n Chinese elm. I’ve found nothing to describe the Siberian elm sapling and wondering if you can help. 0000226292 00000 n Promising Dutch elm disease resistant hybrid elms from crosses of Siberian Elm (U. pumila) and Japanese Elm (U. davidiana var. For the record, I have seen many trees that you can’t get your arms around (which doesn’t make that nutty measuring system any less ambiguous), but the Chinese Elms that I hear about have never, ever, ever, not once, actually been Chinese Elms – they have always been Siberian Elms. I was at an arborist conference last year and there was a lot of talk about Siberian elm from a presenter from Minnesota. There aren’t many Chinese elms and since you have a Siberian in the front, the other is most likely a Siberian as well. It is valued for its shiny, dark green foliage and rounded shape. Scott can be reached at 314-574-6036. Siberian Elm are prone to having weak wood, slime flow from bacteria, poorly attached branches, and producing amazing amounts of seeds. It does not die from Dutch Elm disease, but has other issues that make it less desirable as a tree. For optimal drying conditions, it will take at least a year to season. 0000227373 00000 n Because we love wood, we have a lot of very interesting stock. I have gotten used to it now. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Tags: Chinese, elm, Lumber, sawmilling, Siberian, Woodworking, Wunderwoods. Ulmus parvifolia, commonly known as the Chinese elm or lacebark elm, is a species native to eastern Asia, including mainland China, Taiwan, Japan, North Korea, South Korea and Vietnam. Click on the photo above for a short video tour and see all of the steps it takes to go from a tree to finished furniture. It shares the same vase shape as the American elm.. Burns OK, but not great. In colder regions of the country deciduous foliage develops a deep red, purple or even yellow fall color. I've split American Elm and it … It is second class to oak, and dies too often…it volunteers everywhere. BTW, the likely choice is Siberian elm or American elm if the bark does not look like Chinese. 0000000965 00000 n From Oklahoma south and west to southern California the Chinese elm re-mains semi-evergreen to evergreen. Without doubt there is a Siberian elm in our front yard which spread literally hundreds of annoying weed seeds everywhere around the property I have been caretaking past year. Like the American elm, it is tough to split, and it takes a long time in the season. Is hard to split when wet, but let it dry in the rounds for a few months and it doesn't split all that hard. It is noted for its excellent foliage, multi-colored bark, rapid growth and good resistance to Dutch elm disease. 0000001247 00000 n From spalting, to curly grain as well as wacky shaped pieces and unbelievably gorgeous slabs. The Chinese elm has a rounded shape and distinctive exfoliating colorful bark in shades of brown, gray, green, and orange. (Also isn’t lifting my driveway with roots as the others did). Thank you for enlightening me. thanks. The Chinese (Lacebark Elm) tree is smaller than the American Elm tree. Extremely susceptible to insect, disease, and herbicide damage, which makes it an undesirable tree. 0000228460 00000 n I have a third one I was told is an American Elm. //--> The bark is similar in color and texture to the American elm. It is flat and scaly with multiple colors from silver gray to rusty orange. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Here's the answer. And, of course, in England, lots of things were built with elm. However, once seasoned, it is an average kind of wood. ( Log Out /  The tree is also called the Asiatic elm or dwarf elm and is sometimes confused with the Chinese elm. Common name(s): Siberian elm, Asiatic elm, Chinese elm, dwarf elm Scientific name: Ulmus pumila Family: Elm family (Ulmaceae) Reasons for concern: Large, dangerous limbs on older trees can easily break off and seriously damage properties or injure people.It is susceptible to many diseases (not Dutch-elm disease), insects, and growth disorders. Hardwoods from St. Charles & St. Louis (Live-edge slabs, lumber and woodworking). The Siberian elm has gray, deeply furrowed bark compared to the Chinese elm. 0000000764 00000 n It has been described as "one of the most splendid elms, having the poise of a graceful Nothofagus".. Initially, I suspected the Siberian in the front yard to be its parent, but the light color throws me off, making me think it is the Chinese variety. Almost everyone dislikes American elm. Even-tually Chinese elm may approach forty to fifty feet Many Lace Bark Elms get around 50 feet high and 35 feet wide. Siberian elm is very common in Albuquerque and has become a nuisance. I often recommend them to my customers for woodworking projects. Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. Siberian Elm is the standout of the two, and commonly has small knots that can range from just a couple per board, to a birds-eye look, and even heavily burled. I wouldn’t plan on using them for outdoor furniture because they aren’t as durable as other woods and they do tend to twist in the weather. While Siberian Elm can grow to a large statured shade tree and is highly resistent to Dutch Elm Disease (DED), it is not as winter hardy as our native elms and all too often it will develop scrappy grow, sun scald, sloughing bark and dead branches, characteristics that earned it the name "piss" elm. Chinese elm is more oriental in shape. Siberian elm. And I am not sure if it was ‘American’ elm , but I doubt it…thanks for the post. If someone says they have a Chinese Elm, I just assume that it is a Siberian Elm. This is a different species (Ulmus parvifolia), and there aren’t that many around town. Plan on using them for your woodworking projects and having great results. Siberian Elm (Ulmus pumila)A fast-growing tree that grows to be 50-70’ tall. This plant can be weedy or invasive according to the authoritative sources noted below.This plant may be known by one or more common names in different places, and some are listed above. This tree I kept because it’s beautiful, shady, and never drops limbs. Compare the facts of Elm vs Siberian Elm and know which one to choose. Before Dutch elm disease arrived, English elms were also common across Europe, but they are now confined primarily to Portugal, France, Spain, and England. japonica) e.g. In this case, the tree has a short trunk with a … I saw it in a floor in Wisconsin and thought it surpassed oak for beauty. It also has a fast growth rate, but it is prone to branches breaking and many diseases and pests. Siberian Elm Ulmus pumila. They are useful trees in areas where trees are desired but care is unavailable. That’s the point of my post. Here in Mn, the Siberian elm is a decent tree. I suspect the real motivation is the annual appearance of elm seedlings in flowerbeds. Without getting too technical, the main thing to know is the difference between the American Elm Tree and the Chinese Elm Tree. I found your page while searching for advice regarding the huge trunk cuttings of the Siberian’s which I kept. Siberian Elm (Ulmus pumila) a very hardy, fast growing tree with brittle wood which is subject to breakage. Lacebark Elm Information. The Chinese elm tree (Ulmus parvifolia) has the same graceful vase shape as the American elm and also makes an excellent shade tree. Siberian elm traits: Bud Arrangement - Alternate. View full size in a new window I've attached photos of the trunk and leaves. All lumber is rough sawn with surfacing available at the standard shop rate. Although often called a Chinese elm, a Siberian elm (Ulmus pumila) is a totally different tree. Often confused with Chinese elm (Ulmus parvifolia). Chinese Elm (Ulmus parvifolia) and numerous cultivars - Not hardy in North Dakota. 0000007375 00000 n ( Log Out /  0000230636 00000 n The bark is dark and coarse. That said, Siberian Elm & Chinese Elm don't seem to be particularly invasive in Southern Ontario....naturalized, yes....invasive, no. 0000001082 00000 n ( Log Out /  Everyone always asks what I do. Other common names include red elm, gray elm, soft elm, moose elm, and Indian elm. Thanks for the input. In this case, the tree has a short trunk with a lot of taper and crooked smaller branches. We offer local high-grade hardwood lumber milled by us. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. 26 0 obj << /Linearized 1 /L 1098713 /H [ 764 201 ] /O 29 /E 231844 /N 5 /T 1098149 >> endobj xref 26 17 0000000016 00000 n 0000225209 00000 n Allergic reactions of Elm are allergic reaction and Asthma whereas of Siberian Elm have Mild Allergen respectively. Sapporo Autumn Gold Elm (U. x ‘Sapporo Autumn Gold’), Cathedral Elm (U. x Also known as dwarf elm and Asiatic elm, the Siberian elm tree is described as very tenacious wit invasive traits which means that it can grow anywhere with quite an aggressive spread. The multiple colors and rich textures of lacebark elm … Luis Sánchez Saturno/The New Mexican Facebook Ulmus parvifolia, commonly called Chinese elm or lacebark elm, is a medium-sized deciduous tree that typically grows to 40-50’ (less frequently to 70’) tall with a rounded crown and long pendulous branching.It is native to China, Korea and Japan. You are correct. It really isn't that much work. We have green lumber, air-dried and kiln dried lumber as well as lower grades available. 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