Wusthof Classic handles have flat sides and a distinct curve near the butt end of the handle. Shun and Wusthof are both good knives. [–]warmlunch 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children). Only 1 left in stock - order soon. The $40 price difference mostly comes from the fancy damascus cladding which, while looking nice, does not affect performance. For any other styles, I find it useless. [–]CosmicRavedon't touch my knaifu 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children), The gourmet, Le Cordon Bleu and Pro lines all lack full bolsters as well, [–]Heda97 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (1 child). Plus Free Shipping. Just interviewed him for a podcast, fascinating person, and told this sub might appreciate it. As others have said, you can get a lot more knife for around the same price points. The nice thing is that it’s sold in tons of places, so you can go hold it and see if you like it. I'm a home cook and Shun are my first sets, so this is all I can offer: don't buy a set, it depends on your type of cutting and you won't use the rest. $139.95. Kolekcja charakteryzuje się niezwykłą ergonomię i doskonałą równowagą rękojeści o ponadczasowym wzornictwie oraz niebywałą ostrością noża. The Wüsthof CLASSIC IKON Santoku Chefs Knife is a unique blade that’s more than serviceable for a chef of any experience level. $149.95. Wusthof Classic Sausage Knife 14cm - WT4110. Seria Classic jest najobszerniejszą spośród wszystkich lini produkowanych przez markę Wusthof. What will the knife/knives be used for. This means if I take Wusthof Classic Santoku knife and try to shave my arm, it will be completely smooth in one pass. It’s essentially bulletproof but also as stated above, lacks the edge retention of other knives. Your money will be much better spent on a comfortable chef's knife. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Wüsthof® Classic Hollow-Edge Santokus - Duration: 2:21. Not to piss on anyones parade but Myabi would not make my list if they were giving then away. Now where are them carrots?! Wusthof CLASSIC Santoku w/Board, One Size, Black, Stainless Steel 4.7 out of 5 stars 92. The Wusthof Classic IKON 5" Santoku Knife is styled after the Japanese Cook´s Knife; this blade is just right for sushi and sashimi - or anything else that needs to be sliced paper thin. The Wusthof Classic Hollow Edge Santoku Knife is designed with a thinner blade than the traditional Chef's Knife, at a 10° cutting edge. What do you guys think? Western knives have softer metal, its a strong workhorse and take a lot of beating but it will lose its edge faster with less chipping and you will need to hone/sharpen it more often. While they aren't bad they are far from being the best and usually are not good values. And there's more than one, many more than one, retailer. SILVERPOINT Cestovní sada. IMO, These knives are similarly priced options, made of better materials, with a fit and finish that will match, if not be outright better than anything Wusthoff or Shun offers. Product Options: If you’re indecisive, Wusthof doesn’t make your life easy.With the Classic line, you can choose between 37 different sets ranging from 2 to 36 pieces and over 70 individual knives. Steel? If you were to exclusively use one knife for the next year, this is the kind of knife you would probably want. Wusthof Classic ikon - Opinions? Side note: High carbon steels require a little more maintenance. Similar edge retention, similar hardness, less prone to chipping. lol. So for people that are not pros or really take care of there knifes beware of lots of chipping. This doesn't mean anything, does it? Because the classic is forged and handmade, the blade is much more resilient. - Duration: 2:03. However, if you are like me and feel that you must handle the knives prior to purchase, the Miyabi Kaizen II is a nice middleground. 90 $35.90 $35.90 Thanks for all the input!! These are my picks for reasonably priced gyutos: Tojiro's DP line: VG-10 stainless at ~$70. £48.24 £67.00. $149.95. Which knife would you personally prefer for day to day use? The 8 inch version retails for about 180 in the us depending on the vendor and time of year. The Misono is mono-steel, just as hard as the Shun, yet manages to cost about the same. Easy to touch up with a rod and get back ready for action. I was also considering Shun Classic's, but I was put off as I was scared of mis-using and chipping my knives (and feeling the bitter dissapointment if I did) so I went with the Wusthofs. I'll say it, because about 13 people will jump in and say the same thing. Special note: you'll baby your knives for a while and not sharpen it in case you wreck it but do try to do it asap. Now if op is a home cook none of that applies but there is still plenty that can go wrong especially if he/she goes carbon. £21.12. Feels great in the hand. If you're going for a Wusthof, this is the one to get as it doesn't have a full metal bolster. When you find a knife you like, buy another with similiar charactoristics. Maybe Victorinox Fibrox they are good for value and you can make your mistakes on them before you go expensive. I've had to grind small chips out of some shun classic knives just from regular use. Really anything on that site is as close to the best value for the money youll find. PSA: Unsolicited skill criticism violates Rule 1, Family Portrait; Down to five, and NOT BUYING ANYTHING ELSE, On the 1st day of X'mas my Daddy gave to me; a Nakiri to cut his Sukiyaki, "barclid is a person who reees a lot" - zapatodefuego, 2018. I always have mine on hand when I don’t want to use my Zwilling/Kramer carbon steel for things mentioned above such as anything with hefty bones. And think about a price range your comfotable with. A standard western handle can be seen on a Wusthof and a hybrid on a Shun or Miyabi. Shun and Wusthof are the big name brands that people usually consider to be top of the line kitchen cutlery. Thanks for putting in the time for a detailed reply. Youll be able to get much better knives, that suit your needs better, for less money. Also have the global santoku. And if someone told me this is the only knife I could use for the next year I would cut them and run away. £135.78 £186.00. Wusthof Classic Santoku 17cm - WT4183. If a full set of Wusthof Classic knives don’t fit in your budget, I highly recommend going with the Classic line for knives that you’ll use most frequently, like the Chef’s knife and Santoku knife, and buy the Gourmet line for other knives that you won’t … You can get by with just that knife and be fine. Granted you shouldn't do this, but Wusthof knows their customer base and so the steel used is one that is rather tough, and toughness in steel usually comes at the cost of edge retention. Shun and Wusthof are the big name brands that people usually consider to be top of the line kitchen cutlery. I feel like I’m going to love it! Kolekcja charakteryzuje się solidnością wykonania, niezwykłą ostrością ostrza i funkcjonalnością. If I remember correctly, the profile is pretty good but nothing spectacular. A gyuto is far and away the most versatile knife youll own. Wusthof Hanging Sharpening Steel with Black Base, 26 cm 4.7 out of 5 stars 1,128. The angle it is ground to is 14° which is super sharp. Wusthof Classic High Carbon Steel Hollow Edge 7 Inch Santoku Knife with Wusthof Bar Board 4.8 out of 5 stars 89. For me, its a gyuto, a petty and a nakiri. I suggest looking away from German knives for a sharp, clean cut. tldr: Shun and Wusthof make good products but in terms of high end kitchen cutlery they are closer to being middle of the road than anything special and are not priced accordingly. For me Masamoto makes the ideal gyuto profile and that "sasanoha" is closer to it than their regular gyutos. The Rockwell hardness is 58. 165mm / 180mm / 210mm / 240 / 270mm, Use cases? I cut bonein rib primals and striploins with this. I'd go for standard VG10 or even AUS10. Use cases might be: general purpose, deboning or breaking down poultry, only vegetables, etc. Spend $200 & Receive Knife Block with Purchase! I agree with you completely but there is something nice about having beater knives that have a warranty on them. Wüsthof TR4176-7 Wusthof Classic Ikon 7-Inch Santoku, Hollow Edge, Black, Steel 4.8 out of 5 stars 525. Most people only use one 8" (or 10") chef/gyuto, paring and bread/serated knife. Sale. http://geni.us/FB4o7B — Insane Discount on the Wusthof Classic 7" Santoku Knife. The Wusthof is a mono-steel knife in that is is made of a single piece of metal where as the Shun is san mai. It is disheartening and also quite annoying, since VG-MAX is quite abrasion resistant. Thank you for the feedback! i did scuff the shiny surface on my first go (heartbreaking) but my knife is sharper than factory edge now. Most, if not all of us knife junkies started with a "set" of some sort. It's very balanced in terms of what it can do and what you can do it to. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. If you must, consider Miyabi instead. The classic series offers a versatile range of cutlery that satisfies everyone from home cooks to professional chefs. Very easy to sharpen. Nože na zeleninu, sada 3 ks - Vánoční edice. [–]mark2thompson[S] 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children). £68.40 £95.00. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. Wusthof Classic High Carbon Steel Hollow Edge 7 Inch Santoku Knife with Wusthof Bar Board 4.8 out of 5 stars 95. I'm strictly on my chef knife or nakiri. £92.99. I once had a server take one of my good knives in the 30 seconds it took me to pee ram it tip first into a wheel of cheese and break the tip off. First attempt at making my own chef knife handles. Of course there's countless options out there. Takamura Migaki line: R2 powdered metalurgy steel at ~$140. Since 2008 we have carried a large selection of American made grills and smokers. [–]pinkwar 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (0 children). REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 10719 on r2-app-003e1a4d955c895ca at 2020-12-21 18:25:48.078990+00:00 running 406fa40 country code: US. Wusthof Classic Hollow Edge Santoku is a forged (hand made) knife. The Kohetsu will hold an edge significantly better than the Shun (because of the additional hardness and use of Blue #2 instead of VG-series steel), is also san mai, also has a fancy finish, yet manages to cost the same. The high-carbon German steel, being stamped and tempered, should last many years with proper care. Nákupní koÅ¡ík je prázdný ... Nůž Santoku Classic Ikon + Brusný kámen. This doesn't significantly affect performance but it can in some cases affect the knife's ruggedness and how thin it can be made. We’ve had the Wusthoff classic santoku for 20+ years and never use it. Product loss, $600 knife is now a shortened knife with no value. A place for all things chef knives. They're made out of a combo of Olive and Ebony wood. Tojiro DP gyuto 8.2", VG-10 at 60 HRC, $65, Kohetsu gyuto 8.2", Blue #2 at 62 HRC, $140. As otherwise noted the steel is too soft for much edge retention, the belly will precude clean push cuts. - western / hybrid / Japanese (d-shaped, round, or octagonal), Length? The best site for your backyard. Depends on your usage, though. Very interesting take. Shun is nice but overpriced, I have the 3 piece classic set; utility never used, paring knife rarely used. I just heard they chip and are a lot more fragile then German steel. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. CLASSIC IKON knives feature a distinctive, double bolster design for professional-style heft, exceptional balance and beauty. These two knives will basically perform the same except for the Wusthof being tougher and the Shun holding an edge noticeably longer but being more brittle. The Wusthof Ikon Classic Santoku has an incredibly sharp edge, cutting through soft tomatoes with little effort was a joy. I generally disregard Wusthof out of hand because their steel is too soft to maintain a decent edge for any amount of time. Message the mods if you would like to contribute to the wiki. Wusthof Classic Ikon 7-Inch Santoku, Hollow Edge, Black by Wusthof. If you do decide on a gyuto style knife like the Shun, be aware that the blade profile of the Shun has a lot of belly same as a german style knife and is made for rocking not push cutting or chopping. I have seen some shit in my day happen to knives that you would be amazed. The hollow edge is crafted with evenly spaced vertical indentations, which create small air pockets between the blade and the food. The Tojiro is made with virtually the same core steel as the Shun and is also san mai but costs nearly $80 less. Traditional Japanese handles look like, Traditional wooden Japanese handles favor a pinch grip, as well as hybrids but to a lesser degree, Common length examples are: 150mm ~= 5.9", 165mm ~= 6.5", 180mm ~= 7.1", 210mm ~= 8.2", 240mm ~= 9.4", 270mm ~= 10.6". The CLASSIC IKON 5" Hollow Edge Santoku Knife is designed with a thinner blade than the traditional chef’s knife, at a 10 cutting edge, and gradually curves up at the very end providing a straighter edge. While they aren't bad they are far from being the best and usually are not good values. Wusthof Ikon and Classic Ikon handles are more rounded and have smoother curves. Hey guys new to the thread. The Knife Wizard 1,303 views. $169.95-+ Limited Lifetime Warranty. Wusthof Ikon is a comfy knife, good for long sessions. Wusthof Classic Boning Knife 14cm - WT4602. i held off for a year because i haven't sharpened an expensive piece before. Takeda likes to make up their own names and knife profiles but to me what they call "sasanoha" looks like a normal gyuto. I also prefer carbon steel like Blue #2. (Mine was Henks 4Star) Yet the only universal advice we'll all agree on is dont buy a set. A lot of Japanese knives have hard steel, it holds the edge but its brittle and can chip when you cut something hard but I haven't had that yet. Visited TF a few days ago and bought a denka. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Discover the world of Wüsthof Knives and shop everything from Cook's Knives, Santoku's, Paring Knives, Bread Knives, Carving Knives, Utility Knives, Fillet and Boning Knives, plus explore knife sharpening, edge care, and Wüsthof accessories. Sale. - stainless / carbon / carbon clad in stainless, Handle? What I ask of r/chefknives is, is it just a Wusthof thing, or is it a Santoku thing? I approve. [–]zapatodefuego "I studied the blade" 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children). Peruse chefknivestogo.com for gyuto knives. On the other hand, all that toughness means the knife can also be used to debone a chicken were harder steel would chip. Objednat. Only 20 left in stock - order soon. Accolades: Wusthof Classic knives receive praise from respected publications like Good Housekeeping, Gear Patrol, Food and Wine, and Business Insider, among others. Wusthof Classic Ikon Creme Komplet Noży W Bloku 7El Stal Kuta (W9877) Wusthof Nóż Do Warzyw 8 Cm Czarnysilverpoint (W40238) Wusthof CLASSIC WHITE Nóż do steków uniwersalny 12 23cm (W1040201712) Wusthof Wusthof Classic Ikon Creme Nóż Szefa Kuchni 20 Cm Stal Kuta (W4596020) If you don't care about holding the knives first, there are so many great knife manufacturers that you can buy online. Santoku Kitchen Knife - 7 inch Ultra Sharp Japanese Chef Knife - Premium German High Carbon Stainless Steel with G10 hand-polished Handle Asian Knife - Three Smiles Collection 5.0 out of 5 stars 4 $25.90 $ 25 . 4.9 out of 5 stars 205 ratings. It has been 2 months since I used a whetstone on it and is still razor sharp. Thinned it using Shapton 320; put an edge on a King Dx800; stropped on newspaper and that's it. There are plenty of better knives for less money, but it is nice to know of one that you can go to a store and try out. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Lets look at some knives from both: Wusthof classic 8", X50CrMoV15 steel at 58 HRC , $100. The "which knife should I buy" questionnaire: Notes and other details to help you with filling out the questionnaire: and join one of thousands of communities. For most tasks I use a 240mm gyuto. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Both are around the same price. $149.95 Classic 5" Hollow Edge Nakiri - 4193-7/13 I love the ergonomic way the Santoku handle feels in my hand, the knife is very balanced. Consider checking the wiki first to see if your question is answered there. The knife can scrape the bone and wont complain. Objednat. For the comfort, I'd buy the Ikon. CLASSIC White Santoku 14 cm Typ nože Santoku, který pochází z Japonska a je spjat obecně s asijskou kuchyní, se stal velmi oblíbeným u kuchařů po celém světě. Sale. A westernized santoku think rachael ray wusthof has a belly like a chef knife and is too short to have a flat spot. Anyone recommend anything different? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, my knife is sharper than your honor student. © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. The Classic 7" Hollow Edge Santoku is designed with a thinner blade than the traditional chef’s knife, at a 10 cutting edge, and gradually curves up at the very end providing a straighter edge. Wusthof's inclusion of a bolster is often an annoyance and is removed on other models. The top of my list is the Wusthof ikon 7 piece set. (fish / meat / vegetables etc.). I recently purchased some Wusthof Classic Ikon knives, after umming and erring over various different knives, and I'm very happy with my purchase. Features and Design – Wüsthof CLASSIC IKON Santoku Chefs Knife. Torba na 12 noży Wusthof 175.00 PLN Torba na 12 noży marki Wusthof stworzona została z myślą o profesjonalistach, którzy lubią i chcą zabierać swoje narzędzia ze sobą. Wüsthof is the leading manufacturer of forged knives and cutlery in the world They slice effortlessly without having to resort to a large bread knife. Another vote for neither. You are expected to follow all rules which can be read here. For the same money, you can get far more knife with another brand. The 10" chef and paring are very popular. The hollow edge is crafted with evenly spaced vertical indentations, which create small air pockets between the blade and the food. Damascus clad VG10 at 61 rockwell hardness, beautiful handle and fit and finish. … There's nothing wrong with the knife per say but I couldn't bring myself to buy one. The Kaizen II line is priced similarly to the Shun Classic line and suffers much less from chipping. Dont buy either Shun or Wusthof. In fact I find Takeda gyutos monstrously out of proportion. The hollow edge is crafted with evenly spaced vertical indentations, which create small air … Wusthof CLASSIC Santoku w/Board, One Size, Black, Stainless Steel 4.7 out of 5 stars 89. Agree with you completely but there is something nice about having beater knives have. Classic knife collection is a comfy knife, good for value, same steel without the fancy cladding. 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